Pico de Orizaba Additions and Corrections

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Scott

Scott - Aug 22, 2007 2:35 pm - Voted 10/10

Re: Altitude correction

If you are interested:

No matter where you are, guides will probably usually use the highest elevation available.

Anyway, it is 100% certain that Orizaba is around 18,400-18,500 feet rather than 18,700 feet as some older sources state. SRTM data confirms this and 18,700 is for sure an error. The latest Mexican topographic survey puts the peak at 18,409, close to the height listed on this mountain page. SRTM, topographic surveys, and the figure posted on the mountain page are all fairly close.

Corax

Corax - Aug 22, 2007 3:35 pm - Hasn't voted

Re: Altitude correction

http://www.viewfinderpanoramas.org/elevmisquotes.html#mexico

Curtissimo

Curtissimo - Oct 30, 2009 6:48 pm - Hasn't voted

Re: Altitude correction

5610 meters (18,406') is the number now officially issued by the Mexican government (INEGI) as well as Secor and the Encyclopedia Britannica.

Wikipedia uses 5636 M (18,491').

AlpineFun - Jan 31, 2016 7:30 pm - Hasn't voted

Re the Joaquin hostel

A quick review of Joaquin Canchola Limon hostel - aka the Cancholas Family Hostel - having stayed there with a group. The pros: the people are friendly, they make their livelihood off the service and know the logistics well and drive you up to the basecamp hut, and you can leave stuff at the hostel while you go up to Orizaba.

The cons: The beds in the hostel are very uncomfortable (we put our camping pads on top of the so-called mattresses and it was still quite uncomfortable), the food was mediocre at best, you are sharing 3 shower/bathrooms with potentially a lot of people, and the prices are outrageously high. Yes it's a hostel so these conditions are to be expected, but the prices do not reflect that. If you break up the costs to separate out food and transportation, it's still $50+/night per person, with 3 or more people in a room -- i.e., $150+/night for a somewhat dirty room with no amenities.

If you don't want to think about the logistics and don't mind spending a lot of money for it, then it's not a terrible option. But know that it's ridiculously overpriced for what it is.

jklloyd81 - Feb 16, 2016 2:58 pm - Hasn't voted

Update: Crevasse Danger

February 8, 2016 on the standard Jamapa Glacier route:

I was making a solo ascent of the peak, convinced that crevasse danger was minimal from all I had read online. I broke through the surface of the glacier at 18100', fell 8 meters to the crevasse floor, and spent the next 24 hours trying to get out of a 3 meter wide crevasse. I was eventually rescued. I feel compelled to advise climbers that this mountain is changing. Large crevasses do exist. One nearly took my life. I will return to Orizaba, but only as part of a roped team. In the spirit of common sense, I invite others to do the same.

steevo - Dec 15, 2016 4:15 pm - Hasn't voted

Lodging/Transport option.

Oso of Orizaba Mountain Guides also now has a bunk house/hostel He has 4x4's and water logistics as well. . He is in "Zoapan" which on maps is "San Miguel Zoapan." It is closer to the mountain than tlachichuca and is a 2 dollar cab ride from tlachichuca. The lodgings were really good and the food was awesome. Zoapan is smaller and with less amenities than tlachichuca but I believe Oso's services may be cheaper. Worth contacting to find out.

Also from Puebla you want to take the "VALLES" bus line to Tlachichuca. This information seemed to be hard to find (for me), but is quite simple at the Puebla bus station. The changing of buses in Puebla is very simple if you are coming from D.F (mexico city). The ADO allows you to check your bags and they are secure. Watch your stuff (sit passenger side over looking the baggage compartment) while riding the Valles line.

jeanpaulnoahrodney - Jan 5, 2017 10:35 pm - Hasn't voted

Re: Lodging/Transport option.

We just used Orizaba Mountain Guides and were very happy with everything. Having everything taken care of (lodging, food, transportation to and from the mountain, guides, and gear rentals) made it much easier. We rented a car in Mexico City to get to Zoapan, which worked out, but going on the bus might have been more relaxing.

jeanpaulnoahrodney - Jan 5, 2017 10:45 pm - Hasn't voted

Acclimitazation is important for an 18,400 foot mountain

I hope people will remember how important it is to acclimitize for Orizaba. Mexico City is about 7000 feet, most lodges/hostels near the mountain are at around 10,000 feet and the hut/refuge is a little over 13,000 feet. We met many people who were unsuccessful at attempting to summit after just one day at their lodge, and coming from home cities that are at sea level. In my opinion this is not a safe thing to do.

gimpilator

gimpilator - Feb 24, 2017 12:05 am - Voted 10/10

Wrong Coordinates

Currently the peak displays in the town of Orizaba. Try these and it should fix the problem (19.030498, -97.269848).

amovasagi - Mar 17, 2017 1:46 pm - Hasn't voted

Orizaba March 2017 Update

Just got back from a 2 week Mexico volcano climb. Used Roberto's Orizaba Mountain Guide service for the whole trip. We customized the OMG-7 trip and was very ready and acclimated for the Pico do Orizaba climb. The OMG lodge was very comfortable, with hot showers, comfortable rooms and great food. They are located in the village of Zoapan which is higher and closer to the Piedre Grande hut. Juan was my guide throughout the trip and provided great service. All other posts regarding climbing Pico de Orizaba are accurate. Feel free to contact me with any questions.

MishaCZ

MishaCZ - Apr 18, 2017 4:30 pm - Hasn't voted

Orizaba in late March 2017

We climbed Orizaba, Izta and Nevado de Toluca, great trip. We used a small local company called NĂ³mada (Mexican Travel and Adventure) - really good price and good service!

jeanpaulnoahrodney - Nov 27, 2017 10:48 pm - Hasn't voted

U.S. Climber Dies, Others Rescued November 26, 2017

This past week one U.S. climber was killed on Orizaba and several others had to be rescued. It is imperative that people are aware of the risks when climbing Orizaba and how valuable it is to use a local, highly qualified guide and that you have experience with crampons, ice axes, and crevasse rescue. When we climbed last year (with OMG) there were many people trying to go on their own and were not only unsuccessful, but two needed rescuing. We also witnessed a woman tumble down the glacier. Had her husband not been able to tackle her, she would have gone off a cliff. This past week's tragedies put not just those who were rescued at risk, but all the people involved in the rescue. Rescuers were injured, and I am sure many are exhausted both physically and emotionally. The Mexican climbing companies and villagers are heroes, in my opinion. They volunteered to help strangers. Even if you think you are experienced or tough or whatever, do yourself a favor (and others a favor), hire a guide. It is the smart thing to do. Don't be cheap and don't try to be macho. Our family would hate to learn that a Mexican lost their life helping someone who had no business climbing Orizaba.

Matt Lemke

Matt Lemke - Nov 27, 2017 11:08 pm - Voted 10/10

Re: U.S. Climber Dies, Others Rescued November 26, 2017

While I respect your position, I would like to add to what you mention here. You are correct that many people attempt Orizaba who have no business being there without a guide, and those people should indeed hire a guide! Please don't take offense, however, it's a little narrow minded to say that EVERYONE should hire a guide to climb this peak. There are many people who have climbed much larger, more difficult peaks who certainly wouldn't need a guide to ascend Orizaba. Perhaps many people with that level of skill wouldn't bother climbing Orizaba, but either way, skilled climbers should be free to climb the mountain on their own. I agree though that people attempting to climb without the knowledge, skill, gear, or endurance endangers not only themselves, but others on the mountain as well, and they should be guided assuming they at least have met a required pre-requisite level of fitness.

Just wanted to clarify my views on this matter. May those who perished RIP, and the ones who aided are indeed very selfless and heroic.

Yulia Zi

Yulia Zi - Jun 13, 2018 5:05 pm - Voted 10/10

Re: U.S. Climber Dies, Others Rescued November 26, 2017

I totally agree with Matt. I climbed Pico de Orizaba with my friend and mountaineering partner at a time back in Nov 2016. While we took longer than other more fit and altitude experienced climbers, we had no guide but we were comfortable with our crampons/ice axe/navigation skills.

I hope I don't face the day where I need to be rescued at my own fault. Pay attention to the situation, have basic mountaineering knowledge, communicate at all times and it's totally doable.

One error I did is missing a breakfast due to the alpine start. That was the first and last time I ever did that before the big day of climbing.

WillPelton

WillPelton - Sep 28, 2018 5:36 am - Hasn't voted

Crater Camping

Has anyone ever spent the night at the summit or in the crater or Orizaba? I can't find anything online showing someone has. Anyone here have any thoughts on That? Thanks for any replies, Will.

Matt Lemke

Matt Lemke - Dec 25, 2018 7:32 am - Voted 10/10

Re: Crater Camping

I don't recall seeing an easy way to drop into the crater while I was there, but then again I wasn't looking too hard. It looked pretty sheer drops into the crater from the rim. If you do find a way please let us know!

DaveCovill

DaveCovill - Dec 11, 2019 8:48 am - Hasn't voted

Orizaba thoughts

I've climbed Orizaba 3X now. I agree with the other posters; a guide is not necessary if you possess the skills required. Certainly use caution, rope up if that is in your best interests, and spend the time to acclimate. I was on the mountain right after a fatal accident in 2015, and conditions were icy then. Other times they have been wonderful with fresh snow and firm footing. You never know what shape the mountain will be in, so come prepared.

The advice on how to make a phone call is lacking; to call from the USA to either of the two Hostels, or a guide, requires the following:

For Canchola House (Maribel speaks excellent English) use
011 52 245 451 5082
011 gets you to an international call
52 is the Mexico Country Code
the rest is the phone number; do a similar sequence for anyone else down there.

I have to disagree with the poster from 2007; Canchola House is clean, food is good, and prices are reasonable. I have visited the Servimont compound and Senor Reyes, but have not stayed there. Prices are similar, but Servimont is a true hostel and to me is Euro-style, you stay in a bunkhouse, manage your own food unless Servimont is paid to provide it. Canchola House provides breakfast and dinner with their price, which is still around $150pp for 2 nights lodging before & after, breakfasts and dinners included, and transportation to Piedra Grande Hut. They can arrange for a Cuidador (tent guard/liaison person) for minimal $$$. They can also provide large ~20L water jugs, and even US canister fuel for your stoves, a rarity in Mexico.

We always use our own tents, and camp a hundred yards away from the Hut, which is at best crowded, smelly, noisy. Yes, the pit toilets are always a concern. We dayhike the peak after suitable acclimation hikes, including La Malinche, Sierra Negra, and of course to the Labrynth section at ~ 15,500 - 16,000' on Orizaba.

I have found, via perhaps a dozen different GPS units over the years, that the Hut is at 14,000' exactly, and the Summit is at 18,475'.

I agree totally that Antonio Guzman is an excellent choice for transportation from Mexico City to Tlachichuca, and other points of interest. His rates are reasonable, and his English is good. Great guy. He can handle up to 8 or so in his large van, and he can procure an additional driver as needed. He knows where to stay, eat, etc.

Another guide who has hundreds of ascents on Orizaba and Izta is Vicente Azpeitia. Vicente can provide transportation to a smaller group of a few climbers, and will accompany the group to other peaks. His English is Fair at best, so it would be in your best interests to have at least one member of the team have a moderate ability to speak Spanish. Again, great guy.
vicenteazpeitia@yahoo.com.mx

Finally, if you find yourself in the city of Puebla halfway between Mexico City and Tlachichuca, perhaps while climbing La Malinche, seek out the Puebla Plate Lady. Her name is Concepcion Perez, and she sits on a street corner near the famous market alley. She creates artwork on a plate via finger painting with acrylic paint. Her subjects are of course the volcanoes; Popo, Izta, Orizaba. Cost is minimal, perhaps ~$10. She made 8 or so for us in a few hours while we had dinner nearby. Close examination of the finished work reveals the fingerprints, amazing how she does it. She wraps her pieces in plastic wrap to keep them clean until you get home, careful of fresh paint not drying when wrapped tightly... She speaks Zero English...
http://www.pueblaplatelady.com/

adriaacarlos

adriaacarlos - Feb 22, 2020 8:47 pm - Voted 10/10

Logistics Update

SERVIMONT $850 MXN round trip (Tlachichuca- Piedra Grande) - 11am drop off and 4pm return the following day

CANCHOLA $700 MXN round trip (Tlachichuca- Piedra Grande) They are flexible. This is the most popular option so it may take a while before you are put in a car on Mexican holidays

OSO / (OMG) ORIZABA MOUNTAIN GUIDES $700 MXN round trip (Tlachichuca- Piedra Grande)
+52 1 222 632 5881

SFARELS - Oct 18, 2021 11:34 pm - Hasn't voted

Oct 2021 Summit of Pico de Orizaba

My group summited Pico de Orizaba on Thursday October 7, 2021. We stayed at the Canchola's Guesthouse. Mirobel, our host, was fantastic. Mirobel is a terrific hostess; very comfy Hostel and delicious food. We arrived in Tlachichuca on Monday PM, drove to Piedra Grande on Tuesday, had an acclimatization hike on Wednesday, and departed 1:00 AM Thursday for the summit. We had a brilliantly beautiful day, with full view of the shadow of the peak over the countryside. We summited about 11 AM and were back at hut by about 4:00 PM.

Coming from Chicago, I wish we would have had at least one more day to acclimatize. Also, bring a bit more water than you think you will need; there is no access to water on the Mountain. This was a wonderfully beautiful and, at the same time, brutal experience.

For travelers from the US, at this time there is no testing or vaccine requirement to get into Mexico (please check to see if policies have changed prior to your trip), however you will need a negative COVID test within 72 hours of your arrival in the US to be allowed back into the US. I found a clinic 1 block from the Canchola site (2-3 minute walk). This was the Robert Koch clinic, and results were available in 15 minutes. They give you a printout of results, with a QR code that can be scanned at airport. The address:
Av. Benito Juarez, No. 13 Col Centro, Tlachichuca.

We also employed Mr. Guzman (Jesus Antonio,Juarez Guzmen) to bring us from the Mexico City Airport to Tlachichuca, and to the Mexico City Airport for our return. His prices were very fair, and we felt safe with him. Highly recommended! Great guy!
+52-55-3908-0242;
jajuarezgu@yahoo.com.mx

This is an absolutely stunning area and mountain; be aware of the altitude, and acclimatize. Bad weather can come in quickly. Be prepared. Great Experience!!!

FDaly2 - Aug 29, 2023 6:19 pm - Hasn't voted

Any recent experiences on orizaba logistics or transportation

Looking for any recent feedback / info on:
- guide services offering lodging and transport to trail head at Piedra Grande
- Do we need to be concerned about having someone to watch our tent, sleeping bags, etc. while we are actually climbing?
- Are white gas type camping stoves (e.g. MSR Whisperlite) the best option for Mexico?
- private transportation options from Mexico City airport

thank you

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