Visoka Rateska Ponca / Ponza Grande

Visoka Rateska Ponca / Ponza Grande

Page Type Page Type: Mountain/Rock
Location Lat/Lon: 46.45959°N / 13.69781°E
Activities Activities: Mountaineering, Trad Climbing
Seasons Season: Summer, Fall
Additional Information Elevation: 7460 ft / 2274 m
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Velika Ponca Gets Presented

Visoka Ponca
Visoka Ponca from the northeast
Visoka Ponca / Ponza Grande
Zelenci protected area
Rateske Ponce
Ponce crest from the SE

hat's New Here?

> Jan 25th, 2019: Design corrections
> Feb 6, 2015: New design applied.
> Jan 5, 2015: Mala Ponca chapter added.
> Dec 7, 2007: Pictures & text added.
> Oct 31, 2004; Group page linked.
> Sep 14, 2004: Initial page setup.

Overview

 

Between Mangart and Jalovec from the Main Julian Alps crest a strong side crest goes towards the north. Attached to the main crest on V Koncu špica, 2350 m, it goes over the strong Vevnica, 2340 m, Strug, 2265 m, Zadnja Ponca, 2265 m, Srednja Ponca, 2228 m to Visoka Ponca, which is the last high mountain in this wall. More towards the north it drops significantly to Vratica notch, 1844 m, above which Mala Ponca, 1925 m, stands and then the crest gets lost in the woods above the upper Sava valley. So, the more narrow group is formed by three peaks (Zadnja=Rear, Srednja=Middle and Visoka=High), where the northernmost is the highest and most impressive one.

 

The name Ponca appears in Slovenian mountains in two cases - in both it is an abbreviation of 'poldnica', which means 'noon peak' - because in a certain village, in this case Rateče, the sun at noon is above that peak.

Below Ponca there are the sources of Sava river. It first comes out on the slopes above Tamar meadows, gets lost in sand and appears again near Rateče village in a beautiful marsh, called Zelenci. This part of Sava valley is protected as a small natural parc. So, while Planica valley, lying east of Ponce chain, belongs to Sava, then waters from western slopes gather in beautiful Belopeška jezera / Laghi di Fusine and then flow further to Ziljica and north into Drava river.

Another distinctive feature of Ponce and Planica valley is world wide known. It's a huge device for ski-flying, the biggest monster of its kind, where most of world records in the last years were achieved.

The summit can be reached by marked paths, which are not just easy. They require good fitness and some experience in high mountain terrain. On some rock sections these routes are secured with steel ropes and pegs. Although quite rocky, the walls of Ponca are not popular with those, who seek hard climbs. There are many easy climbs possible (up to degree III or IV), but for harder climbs the walls are not consistently solid, high and steep enough.

How Velika Ponca Looks Like

From the summit of Mojstrovka...
From the SE

As said, from the east and south-east Visoka Ponca appears at the end of the long crest, coming from V Koncu špica. The slopes of the crest are steep, but also partly overgrown with dwarf-pines. Especially below the summit of Srednja Ponca, these slopes are not so steep. There the normal ascent from Planica valley comes up.

Visoka Rateska Ponca portrait
From the east

The eastern and north-eastern slopes are more wild. They are mainly rocky and no normal ascent goes there up. It was here, where a local guide challenged Julius Kugy if he can do the ascent up. Not because of being too hard as a climb, but because a narrow passage would be supposedly impossible for a strong man as Julius was.

The guy did the passage and sat on the other side, like somebody who bought the best seat in a theatre. But the show was short. Julius thought that if he had once won the bet to come out through a small window in Matterhorn hut, also this passage should not pose him a problem. Indeed he was through in seconds, continuing climbing and leaving the spectator to measure with eyes again and again the narrow passage and the big posture of Kugy.

Visoka Ponca at sunset
Velebit - From the west
Ponce Chain
Ponce Chain

The western side of Visoka Ponca is quite rocky. Also here a not so hard route comes up towards Srednja Ponca, but the rocks of Visoka Ponca are more powerful. Especially beautiful are they seen in the evening sun from Trbiž / Tarvisio and surroundings. No need to describe - see rather the beautiful picture of Saša on the left.

Mala Ponca, 1925 m

The ascent on top of this, otherwise less important summit, is appropriate for times, when high mountains are not accessible. But also this ascent is not just easy, on the summit part it requires easy climbing of UIAA I. The easiest ascent on top goes from Vratica, 1844 m, the saddle south of Mala Ponca, which can be reached either from the Italian or Slovenian side. The western approach is easier, because there are two marked paths, reaching to Capanna Ponza (2 h). From there we go towards the east on the saddle by an easy path - 30 min more. From Planica valley (from the east) we reach Vratica from the ski jumping center and over Grunt, or from Tamar by a more demanding hunters path (not marked). The final ascent on top does not follow the ridge from Vratica, but goes by the western side of it. You follow ciarns and the ascent requires some easy climbing.

Summit Views

Mangart from Visoka Ponca.<br />
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Bor - Mangart
On the summit of Srednja...
Towards Jalovec

Due to its position, quite remote towards the north, Visoka Rateška Ponca is a perfect panorama mountain. From its summit the most beautiful view is towards Mangart, which shows its huge northern wall. Along the long Ponce crest the view goes to Jalovec at its end. Towards the south-east, above Tamar valley we have the northern walls of Mojstrovke and Travnik. Behind them the highest peaks of Julian Alps are rising. And towards the north the view is opened.

Ski flying

Currently the world record in ski jumping (better to talk of ski flying, which is really a special discipline) is 239 m (Bjoern Einar Romoeren, 2005). If we would choose a national sport in Slovenia, it would probably be ski-flying. Each year there's a competition on these devices (not every year on the giant one) and it's a special experience to climb after the competition the top of the biggest jumping device. Busses deep below are tiny, you can hardly distinguish people, and still, if you imagine, there are people, rushing down from this device in a few seconds.

I remember a few years ago, watching Eurosport with two English commentators, and the event was a team competition on the big monster (as the two said). In the team of Poland (who had at that time far the best man - Adam Malysz) on Friday one of four team members was injured or ill. And the coach simply called a young, 19-year old guy, who had never tried a big hill before. There's a huge gap between devices of 110 m and this one with more than 200 m. It meant: 'Son, get packed and come tomorrow to compete on the 200 m hill'. And one of commentators said: 'That was a tough phone call!!!' And the guy came, flew of course his personal best and decently helped the team.

Link: Planica (in English)

Getting There

For the general orientation see the Julian Alps group page and the Mangart & Jalovec subgroup page! Explore also the map below.

For the east ascent you must reach Rateče village in Sava valley and drive in Planica side valley to Tamar alpine meadow, 1108 m, where the trailhead starts. The upper Sava valley can be reached from the Central Slovenia (via Jesenice), from Italy (via Tarvisio) or from Austria (via Karavanke tunnel or one of passes over Karavanke ridge).

For the western ascent you must reach Belopeška jezera / Laghi di Fusine below Mangart. Driving from Tarvisio (highway exit), you reach Bela peč / Fusine and take a good, narrow road towards south. The parking place is at the Upper lake, 941 m.

Maps:

  • Julijske Alpe - Zahodni del. Planinska zveza Slovenije. 1:50.000
  • Tabacco: Alpi Giulie Occidentali Tarvisiano. No: 019. 1:25.000 (very good!)

Routes Overview

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Normal Routes

Just to access the summit you can choose between the south-east and west approach (both routes are marked and in good condition). Far the most rewarding tour is crossing the whole chain from Vevnica and to descend by one of the two options (usually towards the west).

1. Southeastern route. In Tamar (a few minutes past the hut) you turn west and choose the marked path on Srednja Ponca. From there by the ridge north to Visoka Ponca. 4-5 h.

Ponza Grande from west
Ghosting - On the W route

2. Western route. From the parking place at the lake you go to Rif. Zacchi (1 h) and from there climb towards the east. Before reaching the summit ridge, the marked path branches. Take the left route (harder) and climb by the ferrata to the summit. The right route ascends towards Srednja Ponca, but just before the ridge also branches. By the right path you reach Srednja Ponca, by the left path you reach Planiška škrbina (notch) and further towards the north Visoka Ponca. From Rif. Zacchi 3 h 30 min, from parking place 4 h 30 min.

Traversing the Ponce Crest

You start on the western side on the parking place by the upper lake. Take the marked path towards the south to the entrance of Via della Vita (ferrata). Climb Vevnica by the ferrata (hard). Continue by the ridge towards the north. Traverse the whole crest - over Strug, Zadnja Ponca, Srednja Ponca to Visoka Ponca. Descend towards the west to your car. This is one of the most beautiful routes in Julian Alps (but only for experienced)! Difficulty of climbing non-protected passages is up to UIAA II degree. The tour would take you some 10 h.

Visoka Belopeska Ponca from...
Bor - Visoka Ponca from the north
Srednja Ponca and Strmi...
Bor - Srednja Ponca and Strug

Some Climbing Routes

Visoka Ponca, 2274 m:

  • N ridge from Vratica notch: Albin Roessel, 27.9.1908. III+, 450 m, 3 h.
  • East pillar: Gustav Renker, 1912. III, 400 m, 4 h.
  • Pečar route: Janez Pečar-Bobek, II, 400 m, 2 h.
  • Raz, Filip Bence, 21.06.1998: V/III-IV, 400 m, 1.30 h.
  • Carpe Diem, Filip Bence–Klemen Premrl, 11.07.1998: VI/III-V, 400 m, 3 h.
  • Lastovka, Filip Bence, 01.08.1998: V+/IV, 300 m,1.30 h.
  • Tetiva, Filip Bence, 21.08.1998: VI/IV-V, 350 m , 2 h.
  • Kiks, Filip Bence–Švab Erik, 23.08.1998: VI/IV-V+, 350 m, 4 h.

Srednja Ponca, 2228 m:

  • SE ravine: Uroš Župančič, Nov1mber 12th, 1939. Winter ascent, 250 m, 2 h.
  • Kaltenegger route (E face): Paul Kaltenegger & Kristina Roth, October 1923. II, 500 m, 4 h.
  • East pillar: J. Golob, L. Juban, T. Sazonov, L. Šteblaj, October, 1963. II/III, 400 m, 4 h.
  • Smrtnica: L. Juvan, B. Krivic, 25.9.1966. II/IV, 400 m, 4 h.
  • Meseceva, Irena Mrak–Mojca Švajger, 12.02.2006: 50-85°, IV, 700 m, 6 h.
  • Prgarana, Irena Mrak–Mojca Švajger, 26.03.2006: 50-70° (90°), IV, 800 m, 8 h.

Zadnja Ponca, 2242 m:

  • SE ravine (Uroš ravine): U. Župančič, March 10th, 1940. Winter ascent, 300 m, 2 h.
  • Viharniška, Filip Bence–Peter Podgornik, 09.02.1997: snow 45-80°, VI/V, 850 m, 6 h.
  • Desni krak Zamorčka, Filip Bence, 23.02.1997: snow 70-80°, VI/V+, 400 m, 2 h.
  • Iglca, Filip Bence, 08.03.1997: in snow 50°- 85°, V+/IV, 800 m, 2 h.
  • Sreča, Filip Bence, 29.12.1997: in snow 30-70°, IV/III, 700 m, 1.30 h.
  • Direct Routhe with Viharniška, Irena Mrak-G.Willis, 22.01.2006: in snow 50-80°, IV, 800 m, 6 h.

Here is a picture of some routes above Planica (Source: PLEZALNI VZPONI VZHODNE JULIJSKE ALPE | Planinska založba Slovenije - PZS, Ljubljana 1970 | Uredili: Tomaž BANOVEC, Mitja KILAR, Jože MUNDA, Franci SAVENC):

Red Tape

The mountain is in the Triglav National Park, otherwise no limitations.

When To Climb

Visoka Ponca from the E
Winter time

In summer and autumn - the best months are July to October.

For weather see here.

Even better site is wunderground - here's the direct link to Kredarica station, 2515 m (below Triglav summit).

Camping

Tamar hut & Jalovec
Tamar hut & Jalovec

The two useful huts are:

  • Dom v Tamarju, 1108 m. From parking lot 1 h. tel.: +386 4 5876055.
  • Rif. Luigi Zacchi, 1380 m. From parking lot 1 h 15 min. Tel.: 0428.61195.


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