> "Crazy" people have climbed The Chopping Block or West McMillan Spire in a day, but almost any Pickets adventure involves at least one night.
This is not true. As of 2014, a well-beaten climbers' trail from Goodell Creek means that southern Pickets peaks are reasonable day-trips for someone with decent fitness, equivalent to moderately-hard stuff in the Sierra.
Sorry if it came across like that, but people are easily intimidated when they shouldn't be. Heck, I was the victim of some Pickets mystique before I visited. They may have been an ordeal when Beckey wrote his guidebook, but things have changed, and saying otherwise is a corrosive kind of "anti-sandbagging" that discourages people from enjoying something within their abilities.
They're still a fair amount of distance, and a lot of elevation, but if you go up Goodell Creek, that distance and elevation translate into time the same way they do anywhere else.
Yeah, I see your point, and obviously I agree in that we wouldn't have even created this page if we wanted to discourage people from going there. I don't think the phrasing was "corrosive," rather it was meant to be inspirational and maybe a little funny. Still, a kinder editor changed the wording to be unoffensive which is doubtless for the best. Happy climbing.
seano - Nov 11, 2014 12:04 am - Hasn't voted
"craziness"> "Crazy" people have climbed The Chopping Block or West McMillan Spire in a day, but almost any Pickets adventure involves at least one night.
This is not true. As of 2014, a well-beaten climbers' trail from Goodell Creek means that southern Pickets peaks are reasonable day-trips for someone with decent fitness, equivalent to moderately-hard stuff in the Sierra.
mvs - Nov 19, 2014 4:16 pm - Hasn't voted
Re:Good grief, a minor trace of hyperbole and humor was identified, and must be eliminated. :-|
seano - Nov 19, 2014 10:48 pm - Hasn't voted
Re:Sorry if it came across like that, but people are easily intimidated when they shouldn't be. Heck, I was the victim of some Pickets mystique before I visited. They may have been an ordeal when Beckey wrote his guidebook, but things have changed, and saying otherwise is a corrosive kind of "anti-sandbagging" that discourages people from enjoying something within their abilities.
They're still a fair amount of distance, and a lot of elevation, but if you go up Goodell Creek, that distance and elevation translate into time the same way they do anywhere else.
mvs - Nov 20, 2014 12:41 pm - Hasn't voted
Re:Yeah, I see your point, and obviously I agree in that we wouldn't have even created this page if we wanted to discourage people from going there. I don't think the phrasing was "corrosive," rather it was meant to be inspirational and maybe a little funny. Still, a kinder editor changed the wording to be unoffensive which is doubtless for the best. Happy climbing.
paulrc - Sep 11, 2016 6:02 pm - Hasn't voted
ThanksHave to say thanks for putting this together. One of the best SP pages I've come across.