Agreed... until the new data are published on some maps, it doesn't make sense to update some of the 14ers and not the others. It only skews the elevation data toward a select few peaks. Better that we at SP consistently use one set of elevations, given that *no* new information is available for 99% of peaks in CO.
Pencil Pusher - Dec 12, 2003 12:33 am - Hasn't voted
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There's the Gunsmoke Cafe off 285 near the prison, get the Mr Ed plate. I think that's what it's called. Basically this huge enchilada topped with an egg and sour cream and lotsa sauce. Very good.
Otherwise head to Salida as there are more options(more people). Don't recall the name, but Salida has a microbrew that serves beer and pizza.
Agreed... until the new data are published on some maps, it doesn't make sense to update some of the 14ers and not the others. It only skews the elevation data toward a select few peaks. Better that we at SP consistently use one set of elevations, given that *no* new information is available for 99% of peaks in CO.
Does anyone know why most sources list Princeton as the 20th highest, but in the Roach (2011) book it's listed as the 18th highest? Thanks in advance for help.
14ers 18-20 are all the same height, 14,197. Listed in alphabetical order would put Princeton #20. Looks like Roach is assigning the ranking by the peaks prominence. #18 Princeton is 2,177' from its highest neighbor, #19 Belford is 1,337 and #20 Crestone Needle is 457 feet. I guess just go out and do all three then you won't have to worry about their rankings.
Note that several Fourteener elevations have changed by a few feet per the most current survey. Mt. Princeton is now at 14,204 feet. You can find current elevations at the Colorado Geological Survey. Most of the changes increased the elevations by a few feet. With the new list, Crestone Needle is the only one at 14,197 feet, putting it at #22. Mt. Princeton in the #19 position. Happy Trails! - TJ Burr, 6/8/2018
Mt. Princeton Elevation is 14,204 feet per Revised Survey
The latest "official" survey places Mt. Princeton at 14,204 feet - 7 feet higher than previously measured. I'm going to try for the summit on 6/15/2018. I drove by it yesterday. Not much snow. Happy Trails!
Note that several Fourteener elevations have changed by a few feet per the most current survey. Mt. Princeton is now at 14,204 feet. You can find current elevations at the Colorado Geological Survey. Most of the changes increased the elevations by a few feet. With the new list, Crestone Needle is the only one at 14,197 feet, putting it at #22. Mt. Princeton in the #19 position. Happy Trails! - TJ Burr, 6/8/2018
RyanS - Apr 7, 2005 4:54 pm - Voted 10/10
Untitled CommentAgreed... until the new data are published on some maps, it doesn't make sense to update some of the 14ers and not the others. It only skews the elevation data toward a select few peaks. Better that we at SP consistently use one set of elevations, given that *no* new information is available for 99% of peaks in CO.
Pencil Pusher - Dec 12, 2003 12:33 am - Hasn't voted
Untitled CommentThere's the Gunsmoke Cafe off 285 near the prison, get the Mr Ed plate. I think that's what it's called. Basically this huge enchilada topped with an egg and sour cream and lotsa sauce. Very good.
Otherwise head to Salida as there are more options(more people). Don't recall the name, but Salida has a microbrew that serves beer and pizza.
Larry V - May 2, 2004 8:14 pm - Voted 10/10
Untitled CommentFor a visual of the current weather conditions, visit the Collegiate Peaks web site, which normally features a webcam focused on Mount Princeton
therrianboo - Apr 5, 2005 11:48 pm - Hasn't voted
Untitled CommentAs you are aware, the new elevation is 14,204. Should be consistent with other pages (I noticed that Mt. Elbert & Mt. Yale have been changed).
Here are all the 14ers that should be updated (haven't checked to see which ones have been done already):
Colorado places, with old and new elevations listed:
Mt. Elbert: 14,433, 14,440
Mt. Lincoln: 14,286, 14,293
Torreys Peak: 14,267, 14,275
Mt. Evans: 14,264, 14,265
Longs Peak: 14,255, 14,259
Mt. Princeton: 14,197, 14,204
Maroon Peak: 14,156, 14,163
Mt. Sneffels: 14,150, 14,153
Pikes Peak: 14,110, 14,115
Snowmass Peak: 14,092, 14,099
RyanS - Apr 7, 2005 4:54 pm - Voted 10/10
Untitled CommentAgreed... until the new data are published on some maps, it doesn't make sense to update some of the 14ers and not the others. It only skews the elevation data toward a select few peaks. Better that we at SP consistently use one set of elevations, given that *no* new information is available for 99% of peaks in CO.
slowbutsteady - Jun 5, 2005 10:32 pm - Voted 10/10
Untitled Commentconditions not condititions.......
Grant - Jun 6, 2005 12:27 pm - Voted 10/10
Untitled CommentThanks
rmichelson - Jul 21, 2014 2:53 pm - Hasn't voted
HeightDoes anyone know why most sources list Princeton as the 20th highest, but in the Roach (2011) book it's listed as the 18th highest? Thanks in advance for help.
Grant - Jul 21, 2014 3:30 pm - Voted 10/10
Re: Height14ers 18-20 are all the same height, 14,197. Listed in alphabetical order would put Princeton #20. Looks like Roach is assigning the ranking by the peaks prominence. #18 Princeton is 2,177' from its highest neighbor, #19 Belford is 1,337 and #20 Crestone Needle is 457 feet. I guess just go out and do all three then you won't have to worry about their rankings.
tjburr - Jun 8, 2018 11:05 am - Hasn't voted
Re: HeightNote that several Fourteener elevations have changed by a few feet per the most current survey. Mt. Princeton is now at 14,204 feet. You can find current elevations at the Colorado Geological Survey. Most of the changes increased the elevations by a few feet. With the new list, Crestone Needle is the only one at 14,197 feet, putting it at #22. Mt. Princeton in the #19 position. Happy Trails! - TJ Burr, 6/8/2018
tjburr - Jun 8, 2018 11:00 am - Hasn't voted
Mt. Princeton Elevation is 14,204 feet per Revised SurveyThe latest "official" survey places Mt. Princeton at 14,204 feet - 7 feet higher than previously measured. I'm going to try for the summit on 6/15/2018. I drove by it yesterday. Not much snow. Happy Trails!
tjburr - Jun 8, 2018 11:06 am - Hasn't voted
More Information on Revised 14er ElevationsNote that several Fourteener elevations have changed by a few feet per the most current survey. Mt. Princeton is now at 14,204 feet. You can find current elevations at the Colorado Geological Survey. Most of the changes increased the elevations by a few feet. With the new list, Crestone Needle is the only one at 14,197 feet, putting it at #22. Mt. Princeton in the #19 position. Happy Trails! - TJ Burr, 6/8/2018