Gordane, I can't believe you've put all this together. Luckily on new Summitpost I can give 10 stars and not only 4 as before!
On the interactive map there's no Prokletije and neighbouring ranges yet (although you can click'em if you know where they are) - I believe it's temporary until you reach consensus with Vlado about how to divide them :))
One more suggestion - I know you've discussed it a lot before about which countries to include - I'd say I'm not sure if Italy should be there, also for practical reasons. When you click the section 'Areas & Ranges in Albania, Bosnia and Herzegovina, Croatia, Italy, Serbia and Montenegro, Slovenia' - you don't only get the Balkan nountains but also the whole Italian Alps, which makes it harder to find what you want.
But that's only a suggestion. All in all - velike cestitke!
puno pozdrava
kamil
Thanks Kamil very much!
Like you have already noticed I am just on a half way to finish the page :-). The problem is that I have recently moved into a new appartement and I asimply miss a lot of free time to complete it.
It is true that Italy share just a stretch of Dinaric range in the vicinity of Trieste. The Kras/Carso highland is part of Dinaric system but it is also being shared by Slovenia and Italy both. That was the main reason to include it in location list. simply the true facts. I hope this cannot misslead the people (since Vid has already put a page on Kras´Edge atributing it to Italy and Slovenia both. And this small part of Italy shares all the natural and geological characteristics like the rest of Dinarics (like karst features, caves, rocks, bora wind, climate, history, etc.).
About Prokletije on Interactive map, they are already shown, and in red color meaning that this is the linko to main Prokletije range page (by Vlado) that will take you to all subranges and particular summits inside Prokletije - to Karanfili, Popadija, Maja Jezerce etc..) . Simply 650 pixels of width are too small for all the pages to be presented there. And the other reason is if I show Karamfili which are part of Prokletije, what should I do with a traingle to represent Prokletije range? They simply cannot stand both on the map because this will misslead people and this would be different criterias, which I try to avoid. it is the same with Velebit, Durmitor or Kucka krajina pages.
The intention is to click Durmitor triangle on interactive map that will lead you to main Durmitor page. The main Durmitor page, should then lead you (by the links or by another local interactive map) to all subranges, areas and summits of Durmitor).
Thanks again for your positive opinion on the page. If you notice other problems and errors, please let me know. I hope I will finish the page as soon as possible, to present this great mountain chain.
Hvala na odgovoru, Gord!
Yeah just looked at the map, indeed there's a wee bit of Kras in Italy near Triest. Maybe there could be some separate link that lists all Dinaric ranges without the Alps and Appenines?
You're absolutely right about one triangle for Prokletije. What about Bjelasica, Komovi, Visitor? I know - lack of space on the map. In one triangle together? But under what name? I know it's hard :)
Puno sreće u novoj kući!
Kamil
Hmm. Seems to me that I do not have to write in English? Jesam li u pravu, razumijes li i ovako? :-) Bjelasica and Komovi already have green triangle each, because there are particular SP pages on those massifs. When Vlado or someone else put up new pages about some of summits and sub-ranges in Bjelasica, Komovi or Moracke planine this triangle will be red, showing that inside Bjelasica there are more sub-links (summits, sub-ranges) belonging to that mountain massif. Visitor in not yet on the map because no one has written that page yet and I dont have to link anything on the Interactive map. For all the ranges and all mountains and major summits in Dinaric Alps the best references are tables 1, 2, and 3 in Dinaric Alps page. I am preparing additional map with all major massifs and mountains in the Dinarics, even those that still do not exist on SP.
Pozdrav! (by the way where you from?)
U pravu si Gordane, sve razumijem, samo kada piśem duge tekstovi moram da malo gledam u rijećnik :) Ja sam Poljak al' sam nekoliko puta bio u Hrvatskoj, Sloveniju, Srbiju, BiH, Crnu Goru, Kosovu i Albaniju, na moru i u planinu. Malo sam ovdje pisao o Korabe i Djeravicu. Ovi dani spremam TR o jednoj dosta dugoj i malo ćudnoj ceste u Maja Jezercetu iz Grbaje da ne bih uhapsjen u granicu :)
Moram da opet pogledam ovu interaktivnu mapu, sinoć mi je se ćinio da trokut za Prokletije nije radio al' możda ovo je samo bilo trenutno.
You leave me no choice but to use my 10/10 vote!! What a page ... I must confess that I didn't even read it all.. Congratulations on this masterpiece! I especially liked the explanation of karst terms, it's those little details that make it really good.
Thank you very much Rick for nice words!
Still lots of work has to be done to complete the page. Unfortunatelly SPv2 has slowed me little bit, because I have to take more time to find out how to use some HTMLs.
Thanks again!
Take care
Gord
Thanks you very much!!!
As you are from the region you are always welcome to contribute.
Gord
ps.
Aha, cini mi se da sam sad shvatio pricu oko Mosora i Risnjaka. Ali radi s o tome da ti kao nositelj stranice Mosora trebas otvoriti svoju stranicu i u gornjim naredbama trebas pronaci onu kojom ces Mosor pridruziti Dinarskoj stranici i jednako tako pronaci naredbu kojom mozes Mosor-masiv definirati kao Grupu/Area tako da ce se on na stranicama SP-a tretirati kao grupa/area (po naski u biti masiv). Ja to ne mogu raditi prema nize jer nisam održavatelj stranice Mosora. Isto tako Vaude treba isto uciniti Za Risnjak.
U daljnjoj fazi ako ces npr. formirati stranicu npr. Kozika na mosoru, tada opet ti sam trebas na isti nacin vezati Kozik sa svojom stranicom Mosora (kao parent-roditelj). Tako ces dobiti logican niz na vrhu stranice, npr: DINARIC ALPS -> MOSOR -> KOZIK (Sv.Ilija). Ista stvar ako ce netko ici na formiranje jos vece grupe npr Mountains of Dalmatia ili npr. cak na Dinaric Alps Maritime Chain (iako trenutno ne vidim neke prevelike potrebe za time, ali tko zna) tada ce sve te stranice nanizati na logican nacin, od najveceg podrucja nanize.
Pozdravljen!
Pitanje pojave Risnjaka i Mosora u "Mountains / Rocks" si ocito riješio, jer sada rade OK. Do daljnjeg ne vidim potrebu da Mosor pretvaram u "masiv", cini mi se da je dovoljno da bude "mountain" (UBR, dok bi se kod Mosora eventualno i moglo razmisljati o grananju na vise stranica, to za Risnjak uopce nema smisla). Inace mi je jasno kako mogu, ako sam definirao "masiv" ukljucivati kao odrzavatelj "podredjene" objekte, dok bi eventualnu grupu "Mountains of Dalmatia" samo ti mogao ukljuciti u nadredjene Dinaride.
Sven,
Ja sam dijelio savjete kako je kao maitainer ne mogu linkati nanize, no ipak ima i onih koji i vise znaju tako mi je svojim savjetom pomogao Vid i tako je problem rjesen na opce zadovoljstvo!
I am very impressed by your achievements. I have not read all of the text yet, but I plan to go there next summer. Now I know where to look for imformation.
Azra - Jan 28, 2006 3:22 pm - Voted 10/10
Untitled CommentThat's great!!!
Congratulations!
tnx :-)
Dinaric-ZG - Jan 31, 2006 7:48 am - Hasn't voted
Untitled CommentThanks a lot!
Take care,
Gord
Gabriele Roth - Feb 4, 2006 2:07 am - Voted 10/10
Untitled Commentthis is really a big, useful and complete work !
Dinaric-ZG - Feb 13, 2006 11:27 am - Hasn't voted
Re: Untitled CommentThanks Lolli for granting the effort!
Gord
kamil - Feb 13, 2006 11:19 pm - Voted 10/10
great job!Gordane, I can't believe you've put all this together. Luckily on new Summitpost I can give 10 stars and not only 4 as before!
On the interactive map there's no Prokletije and neighbouring ranges yet (although you can click'em if you know where they are) - I believe it's temporary until you reach consensus with Vlado about how to divide them :))
One more suggestion - I know you've discussed it a lot before about which countries to include - I'd say I'm not sure if Italy should be there, also for practical reasons. When you click the section 'Areas & Ranges in Albania, Bosnia and Herzegovina, Croatia, Italy, Serbia and Montenegro, Slovenia' - you don't only get the Balkan nountains but also the whole Italian Alps, which makes it harder to find what you want.
But that's only a suggestion. All in all - velike cestitke!
puno pozdrava
kamil
Dinaric-ZG - Feb 14, 2006 9:14 am - Hasn't voted
Re: great job!Thanks Kamil very much!
Like you have already noticed I am just on a half way to finish the page :-). The problem is that I have recently moved into a new appartement and I asimply miss a lot of free time to complete it.
It is true that Italy share just a stretch of Dinaric range in the vicinity of Trieste. The Kras/Carso highland is part of Dinaric system but it is also being shared by Slovenia and Italy both. That was the main reason to include it in location list. simply the true facts. I hope this cannot misslead the people (since Vid has already put a page on Kras´Edge atributing it to Italy and Slovenia both. And this small part of Italy shares all the natural and geological characteristics like the rest of Dinarics (like karst features, caves, rocks, bora wind, climate, history, etc.).
About Prokletije on Interactive map, they are already shown, and in red color meaning that this is the linko to main Prokletije range page (by Vlado) that will take you to all subranges and particular summits inside Prokletije - to Karanfili, Popadija, Maja Jezerce etc..) . Simply 650 pixels of width are too small for all the pages to be presented there. And the other reason is if I show Karamfili which are part of Prokletije, what should I do with a traingle to represent Prokletije range? They simply cannot stand both on the map because this will misslead people and this would be different criterias, which I try to avoid. it is the same with Velebit, Durmitor or Kucka krajina pages.
The intention is to click Durmitor triangle on interactive map that will lead you to main Durmitor page. The main Durmitor page, should then lead you (by the links or by another local interactive map) to all subranges, areas and summits of Durmitor).
Thanks again for your positive opinion on the page. If you notice other problems and errors, please let me know. I hope I will finish the page as soon as possible, to present this great mountain chain.
Take care!!
Gord
kamil - Feb 14, 2006 11:12 am - Voted 10/10
Re: great job!Hvala na odgovoru, Gord!
Yeah just looked at the map, indeed there's a wee bit of Kras in Italy near Triest. Maybe there could be some separate link that lists all Dinaric ranges without the Alps and Appenines?
You're absolutely right about one triangle for Prokletije. What about Bjelasica, Komovi, Visitor? I know - lack of space on the map. In one triangle together? But under what name? I know it's hard :)
Puno sreće u novoj kući!
Kamil
Dinaric-ZG - Feb 14, 2006 12:24 pm - Hasn't voted
Re: great job!Hmm. Seems to me that I do not have to write in English? Jesam li u pravu, razumijes li i ovako? :-) Bjelasica and Komovi already have green triangle each, because there are particular SP pages on those massifs. When Vlado or someone else put up new pages about some of summits and sub-ranges in Bjelasica, Komovi or Moracke planine this triangle will be red, showing that inside Bjelasica there are more sub-links (summits, sub-ranges) belonging to that mountain massif. Visitor in not yet on the map because no one has written that page yet and I dont have to link anything on the Interactive map. For all the ranges and all mountains and major summits in Dinaric Alps the best references are tables 1, 2, and 3 in Dinaric Alps page. I am preparing additional map with all major massifs and mountains in the Dinarics, even those that still do not exist on SP.
Pozdrav! (by the way where you from?)
Gord
kamil - Feb 14, 2006 2:15 pm - Voted 10/10
Re: great job!U pravu si Gordane, sve razumijem, samo kada piśem duge tekstovi moram da malo gledam u rijećnik :) Ja sam Poljak al' sam nekoliko puta bio u Hrvatskoj, Sloveniju, Srbiju, BiH, Crnu Goru, Kosovu i Albaniju, na moru i u planinu. Malo sam ovdje pisao o Korabe i Djeravicu. Ovi dani spremam TR o jednoj dosta dugoj i malo ćudnoj ceste u Maja Jezercetu iz Grbaje da ne bih uhapsjen u granicu :)
Moram da opet pogledam ovu interaktivnu mapu, sinoć mi je se ćinio da trokut za Prokletije nije radio al' możda ovo je samo bilo trenutno.
pozdrav!
P.S. Pogledo sam mapu, sve je u redu.
Rick B - Feb 17, 2006 11:14 pm - Voted 10/10
The best everYou leave me no choice but to use my 10/10 vote!! What a page ... I must confess that I didn't even read it all.. Congratulations on this masterpiece! I especially liked the explanation of karst terms, it's those little details that make it really good.
Cheers,
Rick
Dinaric-ZG - Feb 20, 2006 9:04 am - Hasn't voted
Re: The best everThank you very much Rick for nice words!
Still lots of work has to be done to complete the page. Unfortunatelly SPv2 has slowed me little bit, because I have to take more time to find out how to use some HTMLs.
Thanks again!
Take care
Gord
alex_vega - Apr 10, 2006 10:20 pm - Voted 10/10
Fantastic page.....and I am sorry because am vote so late...I was convinced that am her yet..
Lep pozdrav!
Dinaric-ZG - Apr 11, 2006 7:43 am - Hasn't voted
Thnks!Hvala na komplimentima za stranicu, iako priznajem treba jos dosta uciniti kako bi stranicu dovrsio do kraja.
LP
Gordan
pavlakovics - Apr 27, 2006 6:18 pm - Voted 10/10
Excellent jobVery systematic, a lot of "background" information...
Perhaps it should be declared that being "backward" means also the last chance to find really pristine areas in today's civilized Europe!
Please attach Mosor and Risnjak to the group!
Dinaric-ZG - Apr 28, 2006 10:16 am - Hasn't voted
Re: Excellent jobThanks you very much!!!
As you are from the region you are always welcome to contribute.
Gord
ps.
Aha, cini mi se da sam sad shvatio pricu oko Mosora i Risnjaka. Ali radi s o tome da ti kao nositelj stranice Mosora trebas otvoriti svoju stranicu i u gornjim naredbama trebas pronaci onu kojom ces Mosor pridruziti Dinarskoj stranici i jednako tako pronaci naredbu kojom mozes Mosor-masiv definirati kao Grupu/Area tako da ce se on na stranicama SP-a tretirati kao grupa/area (po naski u biti masiv). Ja to ne mogu raditi prema nize jer nisam održavatelj stranice Mosora. Isto tako Vaude treba isto uciniti Za Risnjak.
U daljnjoj fazi ako ces npr. formirati stranicu npr. Kozika na mosoru, tada opet ti sam trebas na isti nacin vezati Kozik sa svojom stranicom Mosora (kao parent-roditelj). Tako ces dobiti logican niz na vrhu stranice, npr: DINARIC ALPS -> MOSOR -> KOZIK (Sv.Ilija). Ista stvar ako ce netko ici na formiranje jos vece grupe npr Mountains of Dalmatia ili npr. cak na Dinaric Alps Maritime Chain (iako trenutno ne vidim neke prevelike potrebe za time, ali tko zna) tada ce sve te stranice nanizati na logican nacin, od najveceg podrucja nanize.
Pozdravljen!
Vid Pogachnik - Apr 28, 2006 10:39 am - Voted 10/10
Re: Excellent jobV glavnem tocno, ampak tudi ti, Gordan, lahko vezes katero koli SP stran na svojo stran Dinaric Alps.
Dinaric-ZG - Apr 28, 2006 11:27 am - Hasn't voted
Re: Excellent jobUuups, nisam to znao. Hvala Vid na savjetu!!
G.
pavlakovics - May 5, 2006 8:14 am - Voted 10/10
Re: Excellent jobPitanje pojave Risnjaka i Mosora u "Mountains / Rocks" si ocito riješio, jer sada rade OK. Do daljnjeg ne vidim potrebu da Mosor pretvaram u "masiv", cini mi se da je dovoljno da bude "mountain" (UBR, dok bi se kod Mosora eventualno i moglo razmisljati o grananju na vise stranica, to za Risnjak uopce nema smisla). Inace mi je jasno kako mogu, ako sam definirao "masiv" ukljucivati kao odrzavatelj "podredjene" objekte, dok bi eventualnu grupu "Mountains of Dalmatia" samo ti mogao ukljuciti u nadredjene Dinaride.
Pozdrav,
Sven
Dinaric-ZG - May 6, 2006 6:17 am - Hasn't voted
Re: Excellent jobSven,
Ja sam dijelio savjete kako je kao maitainer ne mogu linkati nanize, no ipak ima i onih koji i vise znaju tako mi je svojim savjetom pomogao Vid i tako je problem rjesen na opce zadovoljstvo!
Srdacan pozdrav!
Gordan
Pulsar - May 18, 2006 11:10 am - Voted 10/10
ImpressiveI am very impressed by your achievements. I have not read all of the text yet, but I plan to go there next summer. Now I know where to look for imformation.
Pozdrav